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December 27, 2007

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Chris's article has brought up a very interesting and important question - how much carbon do we really emit? It is a question which every person and every company should should attempt to answer. Not only is the public demanding environmental accountability, but it makes practical business sense to track and measure your carbon emissions. As the saying goes, "you can't manage what you can't measure."

I commend Chris for attempting to analyze his company's carbon footprint. Although, calculating a carbon footprint is not the easiest of tasks, especially when it comes to large companies with big supply chains. There is no way of guessing a carbon footprint unless you look at the numbers.

It is possible that the printed version of the magazine has a lower carbon footprint than the web version. If Chris is interested in really finding this out, I would like to offer our company's services to Wired Magazine. Our company, Environmental Performance Group, based out of Salt Lake City, specializes in Carbon and Ecological Footprinting. We would love the opportunity to help Wired determine which publishing method has less of an environmental impact.

The point of Chris's article is that printed materials sequester carbon, but more importantly, I think we need to consider the total ecological footprint. This goes beyond carbon emissions to see how much land is required to produce and distribute the magazine. Carbon emissions are certainly important, especially if any sort of cap & trade program begin. But ecological footprints are a way of measuring a company's sustainability. This would be an incredibly interesting exercise for us and a way for Wired to show it's dedication to their readers and the environment. (Not to mention it is a way to reduce their bottom line through efficiency upgrades and a myriad of other business benefits.)

If Chris or any other person from Wired is interested, please contact us. Let's settle this debate with real numbers rather than guesses.

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I'll just note that Chris has not answered Chad's comment, that carbon produced from biomass burning in paper plants is NOT sequestered, and that the link Chris provided discusses sequestration simulations, not actual practice.

And since Chris relies on "calculus of traditional carbon accounting," he should be aware that traditional proposals for carbon sequestration do not rely on temporary and leaky landfills as an appropriate place to do sequestration. He should calculate leakage rates if he wants to use that method.

amazingdrx

It maybe time for a replacement editor-in-chief, if this is the level of your understanding on these GHG issues. My resume on my blog, with a brief expose of the simplistic flaws in this GHG analysis.

Presented for management consideration, I can telecommute.

Will

ForestEthics Executive Directore Todd Paglia takes this very post to task in an op-ed on Vanity Fair and other magazines which publish "green" issues.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/todd-paglia/no-more-green-issues-plea_b_97205.html

Paglia also has a longer rebuttal to this post on the ForestEthics website:

http://forestethics.org//article.php?id=2125

jeux ds

What's funny is that I heard someone argue not too long ago that trash-to-energy plants were "carbon neutral" for not totally dissimilar reasons. They basically blamed the carbon footprint on the producers of the goods while saying that they were neutral.

It's just a lot of buck-passing wankery. "Carbon neutral" is rapidly being redefined into meaninglessness, since there's no universally accepted way of measuring it. It's pretty easy to push your 'carbon footprint' off on somebody else in the chain, or say that it's a sunk cost that would occur with or without you and thus isn't your fault, etc. etc.

By Wired's definition, the landfills ought to be making a fortune by selling carbon-offset credits for all the "sequestering" they're doing. That's exactly what we need -- more dumps!

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