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Jamie

Chris,

I\\\\\\\'ve asked you the question several times and in two different ways. After you dodged it by placing it out of your workplace, I asked you two more times:

If one of your employees made such mistakes as you did in a piece for your publication, would you accept a convoluted explanation and apology? Would they be punished?

It is hard to accept your explanation for your mistakes as sincere when in the very next post you selectively answer questions with no seeming sincerity or commitment to intellectual honesty. If you\\\\\\\'re playing games in one answer...

J

Ezequiel P.

The problem with post-filtering is that feedback comes after publication, not before. As a result, errors that would have been caught by editors and other wise eyes can sneak through, and even though the collective post-filter feedback can eventually correct them, they may never disappear entirely.

Viveka Weiley

Ricky: take a chill pill. Mark is being astonishingly polite to respond to you at all, given your evident seething dislike of him and the extraordinarily long bows you are drawing.

Cameron

isn't this simple and easy to understand as a note on a wikipedia page from a certain time/day? This is just the link to a specific edit from the history page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usury&oldid=298168565

burtbrumme

Good job on coming clean. Still, goes towards underlining the central flaws of your argument in my view. For it to be free, a good chunk of your book needed to be liberally 'borrowed'. Quality takes time, authors and editors deserve to be paid for it and paid fairly. The model you present is a pipe-dream at best, an insult to talented and hard-working writers at worst.

Ezequiel P.

@Ricky: I think on those three cases you could argue they didn't expect to get caught. What I'm saying is the exact opposite, Chris is not some random hack who didn't realize he would get caught plagiarizing wikipedia.

In fact, Chris writes about the internet culture, and knows he *would* get caught eventually. That's why I'm arguing he didn't do this on purpose.

Let me give you another quote from "The Long Tail": "The big sin in exposure culture is not copying, but instead, failure to properly attribute authorship."

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no offence, but i'm sure you did it

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Hi Ricky: You are right. I should have mentioned that I was an editor at Wired from 1993-1998. I left several years after Chris took over, but disclosing my past employment with Wired adds context to my comments. Thanks!

Rune Hansen

Well you took care of it so everything is fine now!

cdarin

Gooooood lord. If these people could crucify you, they would!

Utterly ridiculous. This is the superstition of our age, where we fool ourselves into believing that those who Have are in constant tyranny of those who Have Not.

Thank you for remaining civil despite the slobbering philistines who'd rather you thrown to the dogs. Your explanations have been clear and appropriately apologetic, and I'm happy to hear someone else support Wikipedia, which really gets a lot of needless crap by those who desperately cling to the old status quo.

You clearly recognize the motion of things, where we are going as an increasingly digital culture, and you are doing well to educate the masses on the new rules of the game. Free is a valuable idea, it's good that you're trying to share it.

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Jamie

"This has nothing to do with Wired"

A friend pointed out the cover to 16.03 and I just had to laugh.

http://www.wired.com/wired/coverbrowser/2008

Jamie

I am laughing so hard right now.

Chris Anderson

Jamie,

Your point? There are no issues with anything published in Wired.

Jamie

You made that point, Chris. And I pointed out that your work outside the magazine clearly reflects on Wired. And seeing that you used your original story for a cover with the same title makes denying such an argument impossible.

You know what my point is.

Jamie

I don\\\'t believe you are ingenuous, but let\\\'s go down the rabbit hole anyway. Let\\\'s pretend you robbed a bank. And all over the world the hedlines read \\\"Editor of Wired Robs Bank.\\\"

You don\\\'t think that would reflect poorly on Wired?

Now here\\\'s a real situation with serious editorial questions and you claim that this has nothing to do with your position at Wired? And refuse to answer how you might handle a similar situation as the editor of the magazine?

Now I have clearly made my point. And as much as I don\\\'t like the way you answer, to continue any further would be unproductive.

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Leonard Baumgardt

@ Dennis G. Jerz:

You say:
(quote)
If "write-through" means "paraphrase to avoid having to cite," that's still a problem, since you're still building on the Wikipedia article without citing it.
(/quote)

But you miss one thing:

Ideas are not proprietary. Ideas are MEANT to be copied, changed and evolved.

What's proprietary and copyrighted is the FORM -- because that's where the individual personality of the writer comes in.

It's perfectly fine to take a book, write down all the ideas from it and write a new book from those ideas without ever citing anything. Sure, that book wouldn't be a book worth reading, because there's nothing new in it in content. But legally, it's perfectly fine. And you might even add value if you do have a talent to explain those ideas BETTER than the original author...

Roberty Burlow

Hi Chris, I think your "fix" is just fine. This is a fascinating example of "open publishing." I.e. telling us about Hyperion's wishes, the awkwardness (and datedness) of time-stamping the attributions and your proposal for how to handle it differently. Writing about fluid, Web-based information in a print book is clumsy. Sigh, as you put it. Basketball Backboard Dimensions

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Hi Stephen....
I am agree with you.they must not remove a valuable piece of information about your process.By the way its great sharing here...

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Thanks chris for providing us the corrections of FREE book. I owned the audio book of FREE but these correction doesn't come to my mind but after going through this post i came to know about the benefits of wikipedia. Thanks

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The Long Tail by Chris Anderson

Notes and sources for the book

FREE was available in all digital forms--ebook, web book, and audiobook--for free shortly after the hardcover was published on July 7th. The ebook and web book were free for a limited time and limited to certain geographic regions as determined by each national publisher; the unabridged MP3 audiobook (get zip file here) will remain free forever, available in all regions.

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